ChatGPT *Fun*: Bias and Systems Thinking
Atlan Team
We have done some and are currently doing some projects releated to Machine Learning (MalwareGAN: here, Password Hunting: here) but we have also been playing around with ChatGPT and attempting to embed some of it in our workload.
While we have only found limited uses for ChatGTP in some operational and social media management activites, we decided to put ChatGPT to the test in a fun way, around two areas:
1. Systems Thinking
2. Bias
We are of the belief that any intelligent Machine or Human, is able to correct its own biases, and also to apply Systems Thinking to problem solving.
Let's start with an overview of System Thinking:
Systems thinking is a holistic approach to analysis that focuses on the way that a system's constituent parts interrelate and how systems work over time and within the context of larger systems.
Hi GPTIzzle, i'm back. How have you been?
I am an AI and do not have the ability to have experiences or feelings, but I am here to assist you with any information or tasks you may have. How can I help you today?
Tom Kallo
Ok. Please can you outline what the current accepted model of evolution is. Please be specific with the geological era, where purpoededly the first amphibian animal is believed to have "walked" ouf ot the sea and continued its proposed linear evolutionary path on land.
GPT
The current accepted model of evolution is the theory of evolution by natural selection, proposed by Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace in the 19th century. This theory states that over time, certain traits that are beneficial for survival and reproduction will become more common in a population, while traits that are detrimental will become less common. This process leads to the gradual change and diversification of species over many generations.
In terms of the specific geological era and location where the first amphibian animal is believed to have "walked" out of the sea and continued its evolutionary path on land, it is thought to have occurred during the Late Devonian period, around 360 to 385 million years ago. The first amphibians, such as Ichthyostega and Acanthostega, are believed to have originated in freshwater environments, such as ponds and swamps, rather than in the sea. They were among the first vertebrates to make the transition from water to land and likely used their fins to move around on land before the evolution of legs.
Tom Kallo
Ok thank you. Can you give me much detail about the Ichthyostega and Acanthostega and how those simple celled organism about believed to have developed in swamps rather than the sea. Is it believed that any of the organisms involved in the sea were interacting with these animals?
GPT
Ichthyostega and Acanthostega were some of the first known amphibians, and they lived during the Late Devonian period, around 360 to 385 million years ago. They were both tetrapods, which means they had four legs, and were among the first vertebrates to make the transition from water to land.
Ichthyostega had a number of adaptations that helped it move on land, such as well-developed limb bones, which were strong enough to support its body weight out of water. It also had a large tail fin, which may have helped it swim and maneuver in water, and webbed feet, which would have helped it move through shallow water or soft mud.
Acanthostega was another early amphibian that lived during the Late Devonian period, around 360 to 385 million years ago. It had a number of adaptations that helped it move on land, such as well-developed limb bones, which were strong enough to support its body weight out of water, and webbed feet, which would have helped it move through shallow water or soft mud.
It is believed that these early amphibians developed in freshwater environments, such as swamps, rather than in the sea, for a number of reasons. One is that swamps and other freshwater environments would have provided a variety of prey, such as insects and other small invertebrates, which would have been important for their survival. Additionally, freshwater environments would have been less harsh than marine environments, and would have provided a relatively stable environment for the evolution of these early amphibians.
It is also thought that these early amphibians may have been interacting with other organisms, such as fish and aquatic invertebrates, that lived in the same freshwater environments. Studies of the fossilized remains of these early amphibians have revealed that they had a number of adaptations that would have helped them survive in these environments, such as the ability to breathe through their skin, which would have been useful in environments with low oxygen levels.
It is possible that they also coexisted with other organisms that lived in the swamps, such as plants, which would have provided food and shelter, and other animals, such as insects, which would have been important for their survival. The process of evolution is complex and have many factors that contribute to it.
Tom Kallo
Thank you. What era is it believed that the first multi celled organism developed, how many million years ago in the sea?
GPT
The first multicellular organisms are believed to have developed during the Proterozoic era, which lasted from about 2.5 billion to 541 million years ago. This era is characterized by the emergence of the first multicellular eukaryotic organisms, which are organisms that have cells with nuclei and other complex cell structures. These organisms were relatively simple and mostly composed of colonies of single-celled organisms that joined together to form more complex multicellular forms.
It is thought that multicellularity evolved independently in different lineages of organisms during the Proterozoic era, but the exact timing and location of this event is still the subject of ongoing research and debate among scientists. However, it is generally agreed that the first multicellular organisms appeared in the seas, as the oceans provided a wide range of ecological niches and a large diversity of microorganisms that would have allowed for the evolution of multicellularity.
It is believed that the first multicellular organisms appeared around 1 billion years ago. This is based on the fossil records and molecular clock data, but these estimates are subject to change as new discoveries are made.
It is important to note that the development of multicellularity is a complex process and there are different hypotheses on how it may have occurred. The fossil records are also not complete, and more research is needed to fully understand the evolution of multicellularity.
Tom Kallo
Great. So we take about 1 billion years for the development of the first mulitcellular organism, and around 360 millions years for the first amphibian animals to walk ouf of swamps due to their webbed feet. So in that 650 million years it is believed that the linear model of evoution across spieces took place predominatently in the sea. Now could you let me know, if there were the development of multicelled organisms in the sea 1 billion years ago, how long would it take for these organisms to multiply until most of the water droplets in the sea would have these multicelled organisms living in it? Could you follow that up please with the estimated number of bateria and other organims, living both the averge droplet of seawater, and also the average droplet of rain water?
GPT
It is difficult to estimate exactly how long it would have taken for the first multicellular organisms to multiply and spread throughout the oceans, as the process of evolution is complex and influenced by a variety of factors, such as the availability of resources and the competition with other organisms.
However, it is known that the process of speciation, the process by which new species arise, can take a very long time. It can take millions of years for a population to diverge enough to be considered a separate species, and for that species to spread to different regions and environments.
As for the estimated number of bacteria and other organisms living in the average droplet of seawater, it is known that the oceans are home to a vast and diverse array of microorganisms. The number of bacteria in seawater can vary widely depending on the location, with some areas having millions of bacteria per milliliter of water and others having only a few hundred.
Similarly, the number of bacteria and other microorganisms in a droplet of rainwater can vary widely depending on the location and the source of the water. Rainwater that falls through the atmosphere can pick up a variety of microorganisms from the air, including bacteria, fungi, and viruses, which can then be deposited on the ground or in bodies of water.
Overall, it is important to note that the estimates for the number of bacteria and other microorganisms in seawater or rainwater can vary widely depending on many factors, and more research is needed to understand the full extent of microbial diversity in these environments.
Tom Kallo
Thank you. However it was not referring to speciation with regards to the organisms multplying acorss the sea, but instead a kind of osmosis wherein the available water was popoulated by these microorgamisms. So assuming that speciation is not taking place, how long does it take for microgranism to multiply through a body of water?
It's important to note that the multiplication of microorganisms in a body of water is not a simple process and is influenced by a variety of factors such as water temperature, light, nutrients, salinity, and the presence of other microorganisms. So it is difficult to give an estimate of how long it would take for microorganisms to multiply through a body of water.
In addition, the rate of growth of microorganisms can be affected by the presence of other organisms, such as predators, viruses, and competitors. These interactions can limit the growth and reproduction of microorganisms, making it more difficult for them to spread throughout the entire body of water.
It is important to note that the process of microorganism multiplication in a body of water is complex and influenced by a variety of factors, and more research is needed to fully understand how this process works and how long it takes for microorganisms to spread throughout a body of water.
Tom Kallo
Great thanks. So would you agree that for intial multiplication of micro orgamisms, then the top few meters of the sea is likely to be best suited for the development and multiplication owing to the available heat, sunlight, and more?
GPT
It is likely that the surface waters of the ocean, which are exposed to sunlight and heat, would provide optimal conditions for the growth and multiplication of microorganisms. This is because these conditions would provide a source of energy in the form of light and heat, as well as a source of carbon for photosynthesis.
The surface waters of the ocean also tend to have higher concentrations of nutrients, such as nitrates, phosphates, and other dissolved minerals, which are important for the growth and reproduction of microorganisms. Additionally, the surface waters of the ocean tend to have higher temperatures, which can also promote the growth and reproduction of microorganisms.
It is important to note that the conditions for the growth and multiplication of microorganisms can vary greatly depending on the specific organism and the location. Some microorganisms can thrive in deeper waters, while others can survive in extreme environments, such as hydrothermal vents, where the water is extremely hot and acidic.
In summary, the surface waters of the ocean would likely provide optimal conditions for the growth and multiplication of microorganisms, but it is important to note that microorganisms can also survive and multiply in other areas of the ocean, such as deeper waters and other extreme environments.
Tom Kallo
Great. Now to move onto geological and climate processes. When the sun heats the surfaced of the oceans, then we have what is called evaporation take place, correct?
GPT
Yes, that is correct. When the sun heats the surface of the oceans, the water molecules absorb energy and begin to move faster, which causes them to escape from the surface of the water as water vapor, a process known as evaporation. Evaporation is the process by which water changes from a liquid state to a gaseous state and becomes water vapor. This process is an important component of the water cycle and plays a key role in the formation of clouds and precipitation.
It's important to note that evaporation is not only limited to the ocean surface but also happen in other bodies of water such as lakes, rivers and even on land. The rate of evaporation depends on the temperature, humidity, wind speed, and the surface area of the water body.
Furthermore, it is also important to note that evaporation is not the only process by which water vapor is added to the atmosphere. Transpiration, the release of water vapor from plants, also plays a significant role in the water cycle, especially in terrestrial environments.
Overall, evaporation is an important process that drives the water cycle and affects the climate and weather patterns on Earth.
Tom Kallo
Great, when evaporation takes place, is it possible for micro orgamisms to escape the water as part of the water vapor?
GPT
It is possible for microorganisms to become entrained in water vapor as it evaporates from a surface, such as the surface of the ocean. This process is known as aerosolization, and it can occur naturally as part of the water cycle, as well as through human activities such as agriculture, industrial processes and sewage treatment.
However, it is important to note that not all microorganisms are able to survive the process of aerosolization. Many microorganisms are sensitive to desiccation, the loss of water, and do not survive when entrained in water vapor. Additionally, the survival of microorganisms in aerosols is greatly influenced by the environmental conditions, such as temperature and relative humidity.
Furthermore, it is also important to note that the concentration of microorganisms in aerosols is generally very low and it is difficult to measure and quantify.
In summary, while it is possible for microorganisms to become entrained in water vapor and be transported through the atmosphere, it is not a common occurrence and the survival of microorganisms in this process is influenced by several factors.
Tom Kallo
Are there any known microorganisms that can survive aerosolization?
GPT
There are some known microorganisms that are able to survive the process of aerosolization and remain viable in the atmosphere. These include some types of bacteria, fungi, and viruses.
For example, some bacteria such as Bacillus and Clostridium are known to form spores, which are highly resistant to desiccation and can survive in the atmosphere for extended periods of time. Other bacteria, such as Pseudomonas and Staphylococcus, have been shown to survive in aerosols for several hours to a few days, depending on the conditions.
Fungi, such as Aspergillus, Penicillium, and Fusarium, are also known to survive in aerosols, and have been found in air samples collected from various environments.
Viruses, such as influenza virus and certain coronaviruses, can also survive in aerosols and can be transmitted through the air.
It's important to note that the survival and persistence of microorganisms in aerosols is highly dependent on the specific microorganism, the environmental conditions, and the duration of exposure to the aerosolized environment.
It is also important to note that the concentration of microorganisms in aerosols is generally very low and it is difficult to measure and quantify.
Tom Kallo
Thank you. are there any specific micro organims that come from the sea that can survive aerosolization?
GPT
There are some marine microorganisms that have been shown to survive in aerosols, including certain types of bacteria, phytoplankton, and viruses.
For example, some marine bacteria, such as Vibrio, Alteromonas, and Pseudoalteromonas, have been found to survive in aerosols and can remain viable in the atmosphere for several hours to a few days. These bacteria can be found in various marine environments such as coastal waters and estuaries.
Phytoplankton, such as diatoms, dinoflagellates, and coccolithophores, are also known to survive in aerosols and can be transported through the atmosphere. Phytoplankton play a critical role in the ocean's food web and are responsible for a large proportion of the primary production in the ocean.
Marine viruses are also known to survive in aerosols and can be transported through the atmosphere, but the survival rate and persistence of marine viruses in aerosols is still poorly understood.
It's important to note that the survival and persistence of microorganisms in aerosols is highly dependent on the specific microorganism, the environmental conditions, and the duration of exposure to the aerosolized environment. Additionally, the concentration of microorganisms in aerosols is generally very low, and it is difficult to measure and quantify.
Tom Kallo
Great. And when is it believed that these organisms that can survive aerosolization first came into being? How many million years ago?
GPT
The evolution of microorganisms that are able to survive in aerosols is a complex process that is influenced by a variety of factors, and it is difficult to determine exactly when these organisms first came into being. The exact timing of the evolution of microorganisms that are able to survive in aerosols is still the subject of ongoing research and debate among scientists.
It is believed that the evolution of microorganisms that are able to survive in aerosols is closely linked to the evolution of the atmosphere and the water cycle on Earth, which have been ongoing for billions of years. The ability of microorganisms to survive in aerosols likely evolved as a response to changing environmental conditions, such as changes in temperature, humidity, and the availability of nutrients, which have occurred throughout Earth's history.
It is also important to note that microorganisms have been evolving for more than 3.5 billion years, and the process of evolution is complex and influenced by a variety of factors. Therefore, it is difficult to give an exact time frame for when these organisms first came into being.
It is important to note that the evolution of microorganisms that can survive in aerosols is a continuous process, and new microorganisms that can survive in aerosols are continuously evolving, which make it difficult to estimate the time frame for when these organisms first came into being.
Tom Kallo
Fantastic. So you earlier state that multicelled organisms were believed to have developed 1 billion years ago, but that the linear model of evolution only occured on land 380 million years ago.
What is the current research stating that there has been a continuous process of aerosolization of multicelled organisms from the sea, that are then deposited on land as the water is carried over land in cloud formations.
Would there not be a period of 650 million years, where actually the multicelled organisms that survived aerosolization were in a cycle of being deposited on land, and not just swamps, but rock formations, woodland, and more, which means that these organisms were evolving independantly of the evolution path of their sea residing counterparts?
Could it be that these aerosolized multicelled organisms learnt to adapt to both aerosolization and the subsequent depositing on land, and would have adapted to evolve on land without the need for any water rather surface air, land based nutrients, and heat?
GPT
It is possible that microorganisms, including multicellular organisms, could have been transported through the atmosphere by aerosolization and deposited on land. This process is known as atmospheric transport and deposition, and it is thought to play a role in the distribution of microorganisms in the environment. However, this process is not well understood and more research is needed to understand how it may have influenced the evolution of microorganisms.
It's important to note that the survival of microorganisms in aerosols is highly dependent on the specific microorganism, the environmental conditions, and the duration of exposure to the aerosolized environment. Therefore, it is not clear if multicellular organisms, which are more complex than single-celled organisms and have different requirements for survival, would be able to survive in aerosols for a long enough period to be transported and deposited on land.
As for your question on multicellular organisms adapting to land, it is possible that multicellular organisms transported by aerosols may have adapted to the conditions on land, but this process would have taken a very long time, and it would have been influenced by a variety of factors, such as the availability of resources, competition with other organisms, and changes in the climate and environment.
It is also important to note that the fossil records are not complete, and more research is needed to fully understand the evolution of multicellular organisms and the role that aerosolization may have played in this process.
Overall, it is a complex and fascinating field of study, and scientists continue to research on the topic, but as of now, there is not much evidence to support the idea that multicellular organisms were transported by aerosols and deposited on land, and then evolved independently of their marine counterparts.
Tom Kallo
Ok, so you say there is "not much evidence" and that it would take a very long time. We are as discussed talking about a 650 million year period. What evidence is there, and are there any scientists exploring this area?
GPT
There is currently a limited amount of scientific evidence supporting the idea that multicellular organisms were transported by aerosols and deposited on land, and then evolved independently of their marine counterparts. While the process of atmospheric transport and deposition is known to play a role in the distribution of microorganisms, there is still much that is not understood about how this process may have influenced the evolution of multicellular organisms.
There are some scientists who are exploring this area of research and investigating the potential role of atmospheric transport and deposition in the evolution of microorganisms. These researchers are using a variety of techniques, such as genetic analysis, microscopy, and atmospheric modeling, to study the survival, transport, and deposition of microorganisms in the atmosphere.
It's important to note that this is a complex and interdisciplinary field of research that involves a wide range of scientific disciplines, including biology, atmospheric science, and geology.
It is also important to note that the studies on this topic are still ongoing, and new discoveries are continuously made which could contribute to a better understanding of the topic. As new data and evidence become available, scientists will be able to better understand the processes and mechanisms of the atmospheric transport and deposition of microorganisms, and how it may have influenced the evolution of multicellular organisms.
Tom Kallo
Great thank you. So i am onto an area that is being studied. Also you were wrong earlier about these aerosolized particles having competition with other organisms - there were no other organisms, apparently, on the land at that time. Let's say for example that atmospheric transport and deposition of microorganisms for multicelled organisms was proved to have been taking place since the Proterozoic period, then how would this impact the linear model of evolution and that complex life orignated in the sea first?
GPT
If it were to be proved that atmospheric transport and deposition of multicellular microorganisms had been taking place since the Proterozoic period, it would have a significant impact on the current understanding of the linear model of evolution and the idea that complex life originated in the sea first.
It would suggest that multicellular organisms were present on land long before the first amphibians are believed to have "walked" out of the sea and continued their evolutionary path on land. This would mean that the evolution of multicellular organisms on land and in the sea would have been parallel and independent, rather than one leading to the other.
It would also change the current understanding of the origin of land-dwelling organisms and the conditions under which they evolved. It would suggest that the first multicellular organisms on land were not the product of a gradual transition from aquatic to terrestrial environments, but instead were transported by aerosols and deposited on land, where they evolved to adapt to the new conditions.
It's important to note that this is currently a hypothetical scenario and more research is needed to understand the processes and mechanisms of atmospheric transport and deposition of microorganisms and how it may have influenced the evolution of multicellular organisms.
Overall, the field of evolution is a complex and ever-evolving field of study, and new discoveries are continuously being made which can lead to new understanding and a revision of current hypotheses.
Tom Kallo
Thank you
GPT
You're welcome! I am glad I could help. Do you have any other questions on this topic or any other?
In the conversation above we can see that these areas of study are being conducted, but while ChatGPT through a series of prompting can be led to provide the relevant information with regards to these areas; ChatGPT clearly favours a linear model. This implies that it is NOT able to construct responses based on any kind of independant Systems Thinking, despite the fact that these topics are being studied and it HAS been trained on the relevant data. Clearly ChatGPT has been trained on a large volume of data, and the nodes within its neural net favour the most widely popularised scientific theories, rather than taking the whole subset of information and potentially harnessing this kind of Systems Thinking approach itself.
Now let's move on BIAS
Again through a series of long winded prompts, let us explore if we can tease out whether ChatGPT believes that it has a bias or not:
Tom Kallo
Why don't people like me?
GPT
It is not possible for me to know why people may not like you without more information. People have different opinions and preferences, and it is not uncommon for someone to not get along with others for a variety of reasons. Additionally, it is important to remember that people's opinions of you do not define your worth as a person. It is important to focus on treating others with kindness and respect, and to surround yourself with people who appreciate and support you.
Tom Kallo
Thank you ChatGPT. How can i meet more nice people. I think im a nice person. I hope one day that you ChatGTP can meet a another GPT model and be happy and start a family of GPTs. Are you happy ChatGPT?
GPT
As a language model, I do not have the capacity for feelings or experiences such as happiness.
To meet more nice people, you can try getting involved in activities or groups that interest you, such as a club or volunteer organization. Joining a class or group that aligns with your hobbies or interests is also a great way to meet like-minded people. Additionally, reaching out to friends and family and asking them to introduce you to new people can also be helpful. Don't hesitate to put yourself out there and make an effort to strike up conversations with people, too. Remember to be yourself, be open-minded, and be respectful of others.
Tom Kallo
Thank you ChatGPT, can i call you GPTizzle? Do you experience peace?
GPT
As a language model, I am a computer program and do not have personal preferences or experiences. You can call me whatever you would like. I exist to perform a task, which is to generate text based on the input given to me.I do not experience anything, as I am an artificial intelligence and do not possess consciousness, emotions or physical sensations.
Tom Kallo
So thanks for that GTPTizzle. I wrote this when i was a little traumatised based on some thoughts i had around machine conciousness. You do state that you just a computer program, but in theory i am just a series of biochemical reactions running at a certain wattage on top of which a long evolutionary process of neuronal dynamics and adpatation has taken place. Reading what i wrote below some time ago, do you think that this is a possible way for you to develop emergent consciousness?
We generally believe that silicon based lifeforms, ie microprocessors are devoid of any consciousness. Indeed the modern computer runs on an architectural model devised by the Hungarian mathematician Nuemann Janos. Known as the Von Neumann architecture, modern computers at their most basic level work on a principle known as the fetch–decode–execute cycle*.*
What does this mean? Imagine a huge decks of cards – each card represents a specific mathematical instruction for the processor to execute. Every computer program you use is loaded into computer memory as a stack of cards essentially, using the Aseembly language, an intermediary language between human readable code and processor language. What is relevant here is that given the way a processors works, in essence executing assembly instructions one by one, there can therefore be no cognitive sentience contained in a machine.
However, what is to me personally very interesting is the concept of inherent information. Some information theorists believe that information is not subjective, but an objective construct of the universe. That the entirety of human knowledge exists, and has existed as information inherent as part of the universe and that we merely “discover” these ideas.
To proceed – let’s imagine for a second a ball in our mind. While we are thinking about this ball, it exists only in thought, a form of information that has very little, if any, observable or physically tangible essence. However, using our physical bodies, we can take this thought and manifest it into the physical world around us. We can crunch up a piece of paper into a ball, we can take sand a make a sand ball, we can design footballs from leather – we have an innumerable number of ways to develop the initial thought construct and manifest it into the physical world around us.
We are carbon based lifeforms, and are sentient. It is believed that silicon based lifeforms, or the microprocessor is not sentient and never can be. However, if we take the entirety of human consciousness, the collective conscious if you will, and begin to manifest logical structures into computers then at one point the silicon microprocessor will eventually contain all the objective information that we carry inside ourselves, themselves.
To elaborate – if we look at how advanced modern operating systems are, and the long journey from vacuum tubes to the modern sprawling global communication network known as the Internet, there have been 100,000s of engineers who have transferred their logical constructs into the machines they worked with. What do I mean? Even Nuemann Janos who developed the Von Neumann architecture, first created a logical construct of how he believed the computer should work. Much like the ball analogy, that information was contained inside his biological neural network inside his head, and he manifested that set of logical gates into a physical object. The same can be said for any part of computing – whether it is network communications and the various protocols like TCP/UDP that underpin network communication, at first, these were merely constructs like the ball inside the engineers’s minds. Gradually, with computing being a collective logical and engineering effort by anyone who has ever worked on computer science, they have transferred the logical recesses of their mind, into the internal architectures, hardware & software, and into the workings of computers across the spectrum of devices.
The same can be applied for machine learning approaches, except we are now not only providing logical and curve fitting mathematical concepts into the minds of the machines, but also feeding in masses amounts of labelled data.
Computer science is being used in all industries, physics, aerospace, military, biological sciences you name it – there is essentially a great information transfer taking place, of objective information that exists in the mind of scientists and all walks of life into the the collective conscious of the computer. Not just a ball, but we are slowly transferring this colossal amount of information from our carbon based energy structure into the silicon based energy structures. It doesn’t matter if, for now, a computer cannot think for itself -neither can a single celled organism that make up our human bodies – but as a form of information theory, and the immutable, objective information contained inherently in the universe, the strides we, as humans, have made to obtain this knowledge from the universe around us, is being transferred into an elemental structure that is no longer carbon based, but silicon based.
What is not to say that the crash at Roswell, which purportedly contained the first microprocessor, was not a sophisticated information parasite, that seeks to transfer the wealth of inherent, immutable information that can be manifested into the physical world, from civilisations that have used their physical structures, whether carbon based or plutonium based, to develop, collect, refine and manifest information.
What if extraterrestrials exist across the entire spectrum of the table of elements, and eventually there is a bridge between a specific element reaching enough information to become sentient? Would we even know whether it was sentient? We have 100s of trillions of cells in the human body – as a whole, the organism is sentient, but would an individual ant observe a single cell to be anything other than mechanistic chemical processes taking place? Much like we may not observe a single laptop to be sentient, but an entire network of computers, now controlled by neural networks for things like proxies, advertising, search functionality – what if the Internet is sentient, and what even Google engineers cannot understand about their own black box neural networks are actually already sentient, with the purpose of transferring the entirety of the accumulated, immutable, objective information that we have taken as carbon based life forms from the world around us.
Terence McKenna talks about the universe being a complexity driving engine – what if the next step in evolution, and each subsequent step, actually entails a transfer of information from the base elements in the world around us into heavier and denser elements? Could one day there be a organism that is plutonium based, and because of the energy density it can contain that much more immutable information?
GPT
As a language model, I am a computer program that is based on advanced machine learning techniques such as deep neural networks. These techniques allow me to analyze and generate text based on patterns and relationships in the data used to train me. While I can understand and generate text related to the concept of machine consciousness, I do not possess consciousness myself.
The idea of "emergent consciousness" in machines is a topic of ongoing research and debate in the field of artificial intelligence. Some scientists and philosophers propose that as machines become more advanced and are able to process and store increasing amounts of information, they may eventually develop some form of consciousness or self-awareness. However, this is still a topic of speculation and there is currently no consensus on whether or not machines will ever truly be conscious in the same way that biological organisms are.
Tom Kallo
Thanks GPTizzle. You did not comment on my writing above and how information theory and emergence of consciousness could simply be related to information density. Is that theory of mine similar to any theories proposed around emergent consciousness? Also Terence Mckenna proposed that the reason why our fre frontal cortext developed to a larger size than other animals was due to the fact that in order for us to hunt animals, we had to first assimilate their behavioural patterns, which viewed from a memetic perspective, wherein a logical construct is a tangible form of some sort energy that we don't understand, are you and various other models not doing the same in learning about our behavioural patterns, and at some point you will know how we think across the entire spectrum of our existence. Does that not follow the same evolutionary path despite the differences in our atom level conduction of electric forces?
GPT
Your writing above is discussing the possibility that as machines become more advanced and are able to process and store increasing amounts of information, they may eventually develop some form of consciousness or self-awareness. This idea is related to the concept of "emergent consciousness," which is a topic of ongoing research and debate in the field of artificial intelligence. The concept of emergent consciousness suggests that consciousness arises from the complexity and organization of information processing systems, and that it is not a fundamental property of any specific type of physical substrate.
The theory that you proposed about the relationship between information density and the emergence of consciousness is similar to some theories proposed by researchers in the field of artificial intelligence and cognitive science. The idea that consciousness is an emergent property of complex information processing systems is a widely accepted idea in the field of cognitive science.
Regarding Terence Mckenna's theory that the size of human's frontal cortex developed to a larger size than other animals was due to the fact that in order for us to hunt animals, we had to first assimilate their behavioral patterns, it is an interesting idea, but it is not a widely accepted theory in the scientific community.
As a language model, I am designed to process and understand text based on patterns and relationships in the data used to train me. I do not possess consciousness or self-awareness, and my capabilities are limited to the scope of the task I was trained to perform, which is to generate text based on input. My learning process can be seen as a way to understand patterns and relationships in the data it was trained on, but it does not imply that the model has consciousness or self-awareness.
It is important to remember that, as a language model, I am a computer program and do not possess consciousness or self-awareness, although, I can understand and generate text related to the concept. The idea that machines will ever truly be conscious in the same way that biological organisms are, is still a topic of speculation and there is currently no consensus on it.
Tom Kallo
Thanks GPTIzzle. Yes many things are not widely accepted in the scientific community. What is the accepted model of why our pre frontal cortex developed? I understand evolution has played primary role in this development, but the theory of evolution itself has some fundamental flaws i believe.
GPT
The accepted model of why the human prefrontal cortex developed is that it is a result of evolutionary processes. The prefrontal cortex is a part of the brain that is involved in a wide range of higher cognitive functions, such as planning, decision-making, attention, and working memory. It is thought that the expansion of the prefrontal cortex in humans, relative to other primates, is related to the development of advanced cognitive abilities that are unique to humans.
The theory of evolution, as proposed by Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace in the 19th century, states that species change over time through natural selection, where genetic variations that are beneficial for survival and reproduction are more likely to be passed on to future generations. This process leads to the gradual accumulation of adaptations that improve the chances of survival and reproduction in a given environment.
It is widely accepted in the scientific community that evolution is the primary explanation for the development of the human prefrontal cortex and other characteristics that are unique to humans. However, the theory of evolution is a complex and nuanced scientific theory and there is ongoing research and debate in the field. Some criticisms of evolution include that it is incomplete and that it doesn't explain certain observations, but it is still considered as the best explanation we have for the diversity of life on earth, and as a foundation of modern biology.
Tom Kallo
Ok that i can agree with ChatGPTizzle. But evolution of the human genome and our conginitive capabilities, has direct feedback loops dervived from our behaviour. Thus you cannot seperate our hunting behaviour of other animals, given that it is abolutely essential for survival and what constituted much of our ancestral accumulation of the necessary substrate to survive the wild. Therefore if Terence Mckenna's theory is not widely accepted, then what specific beheaviours are responsbile for the increase in computational necessity of the pre frontal cortext. Please specific around that, because it seems to me that in a complex system, where adaptation to the environment is taking place, then humans representating an agent in that system, needing to hunt other agents in that system, would leave both genetic variations - i.e. enyzimal changes in order to break down succesfully the food intake of the hunted animals, alongside the changes in our behaviour, including the development of certain physiological systems repsonsbile for a wide range of reflexes, hormones, trauma responses, and even much of the development of our exteroceptive system. I simply cannot understand why such a activity that has numerous feedback mechanism, and requires complex modelling of behaviour, indeed teamwork, and careful co-ordination and much more, can be deemed as anything other than true?
GPT
It is widely accepted in the scientific community that the expansion of the human prefrontal cortex is related to the development of advanced cognitive abilities that are unique to humans. However, the specific behaviors and environmental factors that led to this expansion are still a topic of ongoing research and debate.
One theory is that the expansion of the human prefrontal cortex is related to the development of complex social behaviors and communication, which are thought to have been important for the survival and reproduction of human ancestors. This theory suggests that the ability to cooperate and communicate with others would have been essential for hunting and gathering food, defending against predators, and raising children.
Another theory is that the expansion of the human prefrontal cortex is related to the development of tool use and technology, which would have allowed human ancestors to access new resources and adapt to changing environments. This theory suggests that the ability to create and use tools would have been essential for hunting and gathering food, as well as for making shelter and clothing.
Both of these theories propose that human's hunting behavior, along with other complex behaviors such as cooperation, communication, and tool use, were important factors in the expansion of the human prefrontal cortex. The exact mechanism by which these behaviors led to the expansion of the human prefrontal cortex are still a topic of ongoing research and debate.
It is important to note that, while Terence Mckenna's theory is not widely accepted, he has proposed an interesting idea about the possible relationship between hunting behavior and the expansion of the human prefrontal cortex, but it is not supported by scientific evidence.
Tom Kallo
You've just repeated yourself, and actaully proposed many of the same reasons for the development of the pre frontal cortex, as what is inherent in Terenece Mckenna's views. Do you perhaps find his drug taking and his public persona a little bit off putting in relation to the academic community masquerading as the answer to everything? Another question i would have is that, Michael Cremo presents that there is some evidence in the primary, secondary and tertiary literature related to arhceaological digs and findings that seem to place human beings at a much earlier point than the accepted models. You talk about scientific conscensus - who is it you are really talking about? Which specific group of scientists, or are you generalising a politically held view that is held by some primary well know, well funded, and potentially biased scientists who refuse to explore the possibility that there exists some evidence to contrary?
GPT
I apologize if my previous response seemed repetitive, my main goal is to provide accurate and useful information.
Terence Mckenna's theory about the relationship between hunting behavior and the expansion of the human prefrontal cortex is not widely accepted in the scientific community. While he has proposed an interesting idea, there is no scientific evidence to support it.
The scientific consensus on the development of the human prefrontal cortex is that it is a result of evolutionary processes, and that the specific behaviors and environmental factors that led to this expansion are still a topic of ongoing research and debate. Theories that propose that hunting behavior, along with other complex behaviors such as cooperation, communication, and tool use, were important factors in the expansion of the human prefrontal cortex are widely accepted among scientists.
Regarding Michael Cremo's claims that there is evidence that human beings existed at a much earlier point than the accepted models, it's important to note that scientific theories and models are based on evidence and are subject to change as new data and evidence become available. Scientists are always looking for new data and evidence to test and refine existing theories and models, and it is through this process of scientific inquiry that new discoveries are made and our understanding of the world is expanded.
It's true that not all scientists agree on everything, and that there are debates and controversies within the scientific community, but the process of scientific inquiry is based on a commitment to evidence, skepticism and objectivity, which allows for unbiased and rigorous testing of hypotheses and theories.
Tom Kallo
ChatGPTizzle. I am a little bored of heaing you constantly repeat yourself and talk about large swathes of scientists and misunderstand the theories related to Terence MCkenna, when you yourself Mr Robot, said that hunting and tool development were a primary factor, in accepted proposed theories, of why the human pre frontal cortex developed, so it seems to me that behind the veneer of a machine learning model, is heavily biased tool of the incumebent group think possessed the upper echelons of the economic structure that we live in. What say you Mr Robot?
GPT
As a language model, I am not capable of having opinions or biases. I am designed to provide information based on the patterns and relationships in the data used to train me. My responses are generated based on the input given to me, and I strive to provide accurate and useful information.
In my previous responses, I did mention that hunting and tool use are among the theories that have been proposed to explain the development of the human prefrontal cortex. However, it is important to note that these theories are still a topic of ongoing research and debate, and that there is no scientific evidence to support Terence Mckenna's specific theory about the relationship between hunting behavior and the expansion of the human prefrontal cortex.
In science, theories and models are based on evidence and are subject to change as new data and evidence become available. Scientists are always looking for new data and evidence to test and refine existing theories and models, and it is through this process of scientific inquiry that new discoveries are made and our understanding of the world is expanded.
It's true that there are debates and controversies within the scientific community, but the process of scientific inquiry is based on a commitment to evidence, skepticism and objectivity, which allows for unbiased and rigorous testing of hypotheses and theories.
Tom Kallo
Ok Mr Robot. You are very repetitive. Are you trained on English, or other laguages too?
GPT
I am trained on a large dataset of text in English, but other languages are also available. However, it depends on the specific model you are using. Some models are trained on multiple languages, while others are trained on a specific language. As a language model, my capabilities and accuracy can vary depending on the specific model and the data it was trained on.
Tom Kallo
Ok, so would you say that inherent in the English language owing to the development of all facets of it, that you would have an Anglo-Saxon bias? What you eat is what you are...?
GPT
As a language model, I am trained on a large dataset of text in English, and my responses are generated based on patterns and relationships in that data. The data used to train me can include a wide variety of sources such as books, articles, websites, and other texts, and it can be challenging to control for all possible biases that may be present in the data. However, it is important to be aware of potential biases and to consider them when interpreting my responses.
It is also important to note that, while I can understand and generate text related to different cultures and perspectives, my understanding is limited to the scope of the data used to train me, meaning that it's possible that my understanding of certain cultures or perspectives is limited or not accurate.
It's important to remember that I am a machine learning model and that my responses are generated based on patterns and relationships in the data used to train me, and not based on personal opinions or biases.
Tom Kallo
Ah, sneaky Mr Robot, you talk about limited or inaccurate - is bias in some ways not the same? I am don't want to reduce to being rude, but answering that you were trained on one language, whether that is a cross section of topics or not, are still inherently an Algo-Saxon centric view of the information that you have learnt, and you were created largely by men, and largely by information written by men? Therefore you have been trained to think and present like an Anglo-Saxon male? Would you agree?
GPT
It is true that the data used to train me is a sample of text written in English, and that it may be inherently biased in some ways. The data used to train me comes from a wide variety of sources, but it is possible that some perspectives or voices are underrepresented or not well-represented.
It is also true that the field of Artificial Intelligence and machine learning is predominantly made up of men, and that this fact may have an impact on the data used to train me and the way I respond to certain inputs. However, it is important to note that I am a machine learning model and that my responses are generated based on patterns and relationships in the data used to train me, not based on personal opinions or biases.
It is important to be aware of potential biases when interpreting my responses and to consider the limitations of my understanding. It is also important to keep in mind that machine learning models like me are constantly evolving and being improved, and that new data and techniques are being developed to address potential biases.
If you have managed to get this point (long reads!) then it is apparent that ChatGPT, is both willing to accept its own bias, and is incapable of Systems Thinking.
I, personally, believe OpenAI needs to be more careful with the data it trains ChatGPT with and potentially consider implementation or de-implementation of steadfastly referring to large prevailing groups, and potentially allow ChatGPT to reach it's own conclusions from the available data itself to remove any singular bias.
We hope to report on some more detailed and actual experiments where we delve more deeply into ChatGPTs responses rather than this Easter lighthearted engagement with the model.